I kept bragging to all my friends in my dreams: 'See, Ira is alive'

АП: We decided to talk with those people who we spoke with two years ago, a year and a half ago. I really wanted to talk with you, because despite the reason, we had some very warm conversation with you. I would like to know how how you are now, how are your affairs?

АБ: Well, everything is more or less, I'm working, living quietly.

АП: Did you manage to find work? Because I remember, then you were looking.

АБ: Yes, I found it practically right away.

АП: What do you do?

АБ: I run an online store.

АП: Like as an administrator?

АБ: Yes.

АП: Where do you live now? Did you stay in Dnipro?

АБ: Well yes, where I lived, that's where I live.

АП: What's happening with the house now, have you been there? Hello, you're cutting out.

АБ: I heard you now.

АП: If I cut out, then we can try to call back.

АБ: Uh-huh. Good.

АП: Are they shelling heavily now?

АБ: Yes-yes, today there was a nightmare there.

АП: Often?

АБ: Well lately very often, they've taken to it.

АП: Have you gotten used to it already or?..

АБ: Well how, gotten used to it? Probably, yes. It's impossible to get used to this, but there's no other way.

АП: And today did it hit far from you?

АБ: No, nearby, nearby.

АП: Nearby? Horror.

АБ: Nearby...

АП: Do you go down to the basement or not anymore?

АБ: No, no.

АП: Why?

АБ: I don't know – because I'm foolish.

АП: Aren't you scared?

АБ: Well how? Only idiots aren't scared – normal people are always scared.

АП: But still you don't go down?

АБ: No. Just well...I don't know. I don't know why.

АП: You're a risky person.

АБ: Well what – now, probably, many are like that already.

АП: I spoke with several people who lost loved ones in that house, and many told me that they don't even look in that direction, don't go there. How is it for you?

АБ: Yes, yes. I also can't be there. I go to the cemetery, but there I can't even drive by.

АП: And what's there now – are they somehow restoring it?

АБ: No, they started to demolish it, well there's nothing left to restore there.

АП: Well that is, they left the residential buildings, yes, and removed the destroyed ones?

АБ: Well for now yes, [they] left [the residential ones], and the destroyed ones – there they already brought in equipment, quietly starting to demolish all of this.

АП: This just recently started?

АБ: Well yes, somewhere maybe 3-4 months ago.

АП: And why so – everything happened long ago?

АБ: Well, I don't know, the city authorities make these decisions.

АП: Did anyone contact you in connection with this?

АБ: No, no, well what's the point?

АП: Is there a plan to make some kind of memorial, or nothing heard about this?

АБ: I think so, yes, but I haven't heard anything. But I'm sure they'll do something there.

АП: And do you communicate with anyone from those who also suffered there?

АБ: No, unfortunately, no. Well, first of all, I didn't really know anyone there, Ira worked there for me, we didn't live there. And Ira just worked. So no, I don't communicate with anyone.

АП: How do you... What supports you now?

АБ: Friends, dad, brother with wife — well somehow we all communicate.

АП: I remember how you told that friends sent you to the theater.

АБ: Yes.

АП: Do you go?

АБ: I go sometimes, yes. Well, in summer, not now, but in winter I often went.

АП: What did you watch?

АБ: Oh, there was a lot, well I don't remember anymore. These, what are they called. My God! "Forest Song", well, what else was there, well, such more modern performances already. Well so – interesting.

АП: And do you communicate with the fishing community?

АБ: Of course, of course. And last year we even went to Kyiv to competitions with our mutual girlfriend.

АП: This was last summer?

АБ: Yes, yes, last summer.

АП: And how? How did you participate?

АБ: Well, how? Excellently. You could say, worthily, but not in the prizes.

АП: That is, you continue to be involved?

АБ: Well how? Now there aren't really any competitions as such. But so, in principle, for myself, – yes. Sometimes, if I manage to get out, to fish, then I do it with great pleasure.

АП: I remember that, if I'm not mistaken, it was planned to somehow perpetuate Ira's memory in the fishing community.

АБ: For now while the war is going on, for now we've postponed all of this. It was planned to hold competitions in Ira's memory. But now for now, I'm telling you, there are no competitions because of, well, because of all these idiots. So we're waiting for when everything will be.

АП: But you plan to do something like that?

АБ: Of course, definitely. Definitely.

АП: You said that you go to the cemetery. Do you talk when you come?

АБ: Of course. Probably like everyone when they come to the cemetery – yes, there's something to tell. Maybe something new there, maybe just to talk like that.

АП: When were you there last?

АБ: Well, about three weeks ago, probably, was the last time, because I went to my father in the village. Constantly, very often, it doesn't work out. Although the cemetery is not far from home – well, five minutes by car – but still it doesn't work out often. Because either work, or, maybe, if it's the weekend, I go somewhere, then it doesn't work out. If I'm home, then definitely, of course, I'll go.

АП: What did you tell about last time?

АБ: I don't remember. Well about everything. Just about everything. I don't know, I can't even remember like that. What's in my head, that's what [I tell].

АП: Do you feel that she's nearby?

АБ: Yes, of course. Of course, I feel it.

АП: Do you miss her?

АБ: That's not the word. That's not the word. Constantly.

АП: Tell me.

АБ: What exactly?

АП: You started to say that you miss her, and I thought you would continue.

АБ: Well no, well...

АП: You cut out.

АБ: Anechka, if I call you in 5-10 minutes? Because a person called me, they're coming, for work. I'll be free, I'll call right away.

АП: Good, agreed.